tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post749901157990565074..comments2023-10-22T02:35:41.216-07:00Comments on Citizen K.: Dulce et Decorum EstUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-63978966943538198822010-06-01T19:48:46.245-07:002010-06-01T19:48:46.245-07:00Thanks for a splendid post. I think the peace mov...Thanks for a splendid post. I think the peace movement really misses by not putting together explanations of Memorial Day with powerful No War message. We need to risk being "unpatriotic" if we are ever to stop this endless war-making.naomi dagen bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636592739857173279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-63978831982786852632010-05-31T08:16:36.894-07:002010-05-31T08:16:36.894-07:00A great post and so different from the usual senti...A great post and so different from the usual sentimental garbage we hear now. War is Hell PERIOD.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-61976695862720870702010-05-31T06:23:42.827-07:002010-05-31T06:23:42.827-07:00Thanks K........happy weekend to ya!Thanks K........happy weekend to ya!Ima Wizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433038947071428711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-53383509377963730422010-05-30T21:34:23.700-07:002010-05-30T21:34:23.700-07:00IMHO, "the old lie" is one of the most b...IMHO, "the old lie" is one of the most bitter and unarguable statements ever made in a poem. It would bring even Dick Cheney up short. OK, maybe not him, but you get the point.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10222703055177237209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-76244600874266200872010-05-30T21:31:52.721-07:002010-05-30T21:31:52.721-07:00DC: What can I say but "ditto?"
Rasta: ...<b>DC:</b> What can I say but "ditto?"<br /><br /><b>Rasta:</b> It would have been worth being an English major at Rutgers just to take a class from Fussell. I've read <i>The Great War and Modern Memory</i>, <i>The Children's Crusade</i>, parts of his memoir, and any essay I come across. I'm ordering a copy of <i>Class</i> tonight.<br /><br /><b>MP:</b> Take my word for it -- you are <i>not</i> among the old folks of this crew! Memorial Day and Veteran's Day are difficult to explain in full without sounding unpatriotic, so good on for making the effort.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10222703055177237209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-38745316837880243882010-05-30T20:31:27.243-07:002010-05-30T20:31:27.243-07:00I have started going on the intercom at school bef...I have started going on the intercom at school before each major holiday to explain to the students the reason why they're getting a day off. It is surprising to me how few families talk about the meaning of national holidays anymore. Putting out and bringing in the flag on those special days was such a tradition at our house growing up, and I am amazed when the kids don't have any notion of why they get a day off. Guess I am sounding like one of the old folks criticizing the young whippersnappers...but it's sad that we have become so divided, politically and culturally, that we don't even have a shared knowledge of the meaning behind days such as Memorial Day. Hope my little announcements will help.mommapoliticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224971007948785838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-60382974772864096402010-05-30T16:06:43.282-07:002010-05-30T16:06:43.282-07:00The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
by Randall Jar...The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner<br />by Randall Jarrell<br /><br />From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,<br />And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.<br />Six miles from earth, loosed from the dream of life,<br />I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.<br />When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.<br /><br />Always amazed at what these guys wrote about their war experiences.<br /><br />related note K, Aside from his incredible war writings Fussell has also written probably the funniest satire of American social ambitions I have ever read called Class : A Guide to the American Status System. He's a giant plain and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-57178914718312971452010-05-30T16:03:52.444-07:002010-05-30T16:03:52.444-07:00great post
you know what would be the best memori...great post<br /><br />you know what would be the best memorial day - no wars and all our troops homeDistributorcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10149154929149577121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-7762468430267082412010-05-30T15:32:00.441-07:002010-05-30T15:32:00.441-07:00Editilla: Back at ya!
Nance: That's a wonderf...<b>Editilla:</b> Back at ya!<br /><br /><b>Nance:</b> That's a wonderful way of putting it.<br /><br /><b>John:</b> Thanks! The Seeger video is a great find: There are others out there, but none quite this moving.<br /><br /><b>tnlib:</b> The poems written at the beginning of the war are much different from the ones at the end. Check out <a href="http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit/collections/rosenberg" rel="nofollow">Isaac Rosenberg</a> some time.<br /><br /><b>Roy:</b> Paul Fussell wrote (before the Eastwood films came out) that the first 20 minutes of <i>Saving Private Ryan</i> is the only realistic depiction of war on film. He used an obscenity to describe all of the rest.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10222703055177237209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-37328277296767559562010-05-30T15:06:16.969-07:002010-05-30T15:06:16.969-07:00Great post, K. In addition to the Wilfred Owen poe...Great post, K. In addition to the Wilfred Owen poem, anyone who needs to be cured of the "romanticism" of war should also watch one or all three of these movies: Steven Spielberg's <i>Saving Private Ryan</i> and Clint Eastwood's latest two projects, <i>Flags of Our Fathers</i> and <i>Letters from Iwo Jima</i>. Somebody or other said the first 5 minutes of <i>Saving Private Ryan</i> was the best argument against war ever created. I agree.Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01648670975466222140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-65493817030557088942010-05-30T13:51:56.791-07:002010-05-30T13:51:56.791-07:00Much better poem than Flanders Field. Too bad peop...Much better poem than Flanders Field. Too bad people don't use M-Day not only to remember those who have lost their lives, but as a vehicle to save future lives.Leslie Parsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13743778482517634823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-71962901477775776932010-05-30T13:46:12.937-07:002010-05-30T13:46:12.937-07:00This is a very good Memorial post--your words, the...This is a very good Memorial post--your words, the Owen poem, the Seeger song. I'd thought of various ways of getting to a similar place, but ultimately took the easy way out--no post tomorrow. Glad you liked the photo, btw!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15687192784861682991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-67909712147447011842010-05-30T13:28:10.101-07:002010-05-30T13:28:10.101-07:00Thank you for a sensitive and appropriate Memorial...Thank you for a sensitive and appropriate Memorial Day Post. Here's to our children, spouses, sweethearts, parents, and friends who found themselves as war when they thought they were signing up for glory.Nancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15166865250789996825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077075252525438159.post-79719307561027563892010-05-30T13:16:38.210-07:002010-05-30T13:16:38.210-07:00Nola is rocking the BP Protest:
http://noladder.bl...Nola is rocking the BP Protest:<br />http://noladder.blogspot.com/<br />And do the twitter thing too.<br />Oh and Happy Fucking Memorial Day!Editilla~New Orleans Ladderhttp://noladder.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com